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		<title>Pre-ordering the iPad is a fool&#8217;s game?  Yeah right.</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2010/03/13/pre-ordering-the-ipad-is-a-fools-game-yeah-right/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know it&#8217;s an opinion piece but this article, reposted on Macworld, is really ridiculous.
Buying a new kind of product sight unseen is foolish. Especially given how mysterious Apple has been on what the iPad can do and what restrictions on capabilities and media access it will place on users and content providers.
Really?  Has Apple been [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s an opinion piece but <a href="http://www.macworld.com/article/147073/2010/03/ipad_preorder.html?lsrc=rss_main">this</a> article, reposted on Macworld, is really ridiculous.</p>
<blockquote><p>Buying a new kind of product sight unseen is foolish. Especially given how mysterious Apple has been on what the iPad can do and <a href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobilize/ipad-questions-apple-wont-answer-972">what restrictions on capabilities and media access</a> it will place on users and content providers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Really?  Has Apple been mysterious?  I was pretty clear on what the iPad can do and what it can&#8217;t do based on the presentation from Steve Jobs when he introduced the device.   It&#8217;s based on iPhone OS  and has, currently, the same limitations as iPhone OS.   There are changes to account for the new screen and there are new applications but it&#8217;s a Wifi and/or 3G larger iPod Touch.   What is so mysterious about it?   And what restrictions and media access is Galen Gruman referring to that we don&#8217;t already know about?</p>
<p>I really wish people would just get over the fact that Apple makes good products.   If you don&#8217;t like them don&#8217;t buy them but stop faulting others for buying them.</p>
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		<title>You&#8217;d have think they would have learned by now&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2010/01/04/youd-have-think-they-would-have-learned-by-now/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Apple &#8220;press&#8221; (I use quotes because they really aren&#8217;t but sure seem like they&#8217;d like to be) never ceases to amaze me.  What passes for two stories on The Unofficial Apple Weblog today:

A story titled &#8216;Apple&#8217;s &#8220;renaissance&#8221; is under way&#8217; it is reported that the author thinks that because he is seeing Macs everywhere [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Apple &#8220;press&#8221; (I use quotes because they really aren&#8217;t but sure seem like they&#8217;d like to be) never ceases to amaze me.  What passes for two stories on The Unofficial Apple Weblog today:</p>
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<li>A story titled <a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/04/apples-renaissance-is-under-way/">&#8216;Apple&#8217;s &#8220;renaissance&#8221; is under way&#8217;</a> it is reported that the author thinks that because he is seeing Macs everywhere now that more people are buying them.  This shocking item is backed up with the claim &#8220;There&#8217;s now data to back up these observations&#8221;.  Well gee, there has been data to back up those observations for quite awhile now.  Apple has been consistently improving Mac sales quarter over quarter.   This Mac website is just seeing this now??
<p />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Oh and of course the peanut gallery kicks in with the typical &#8216;People just buy &lt;insert popular Apple product&gt; because they want to be seen with it&#8217;.  Hate to break it to those folks but I bought an iPod, a Mac, and an iPhone because they&#8217;re the best products&#8230;not because I want to look cool (and in the case of an iPhone millions of people don&#8217;t all want to look cool.  Please.).</li>
<li>In another story titled <a href="http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/04/htc-and-other-oems-prepared-to-challenge-the-islate/">&#8220;HTC and other OEMs prepared to challenge the iSlate&#8221;</a> we get the brilliant little nugget: &#8220;The announcements are sure to place some price pressure on Apple: Freescale&#8217;s design is intended for retail prices in the $200 range, much less than the $600 &#8211; $1,000 expected for Apple&#8217;s device. &#8220;I&#8217;m going to bet that the Freescale tablet will be every bit as good as it&#8217;s $200-range design.  Meanwhile people will part with their hard earned dollars in droves to get the Apple tablet because Apple knows what they&#8217;re doing and they seem to be the only company that gives a damn about design and how people interact with their products.
<p />&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;To be sure the author throws in: &#8220;Of course, Apple is all about the design, functionality, and user experience of their devices and software, and the capabilities of the tablet will need to show perceived value to potential customers.&#8221; just to make sure they cover their bases.  Again I find it astounding that this is coming from a website who&#8217;s main purpose is covering Apple.   Have they not noticed that during this awful recession Apple is making money hand over fist on premium laptops and desktop systems?</li>
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<p>This is the best these guys can do?</p>
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		<title>Pimlical calendar software from Pimlico Software</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2009/12/29/pimlical-calendar-software-from-pimlico-software/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was reading a review of BusyCal for the Mac and Wolf Rentzsch reminded me of one of the features I absolutely *loved* from the DateBk Palm application from Pimlico: floating events.   They were what they sound like&#8230;events that could be marked as completed like a To Do but if not complete would keep [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading a <a href="http://rentzsch.tumblr.com/post/292469574/busycal-1-1-review">review</a> of <a href="http://busymac.com/index.html">BusyCal</a> for the Mac and Wolf Rentzsch reminded me of one of the features I absolutely *loved* from the DateBk Palm application from Pimlico: floating events.   They were what they sound like&#8230;events that could be marked as completed like a To Do but if not complete would keep floating to the next day until completed or deleted.  So I wondered what happened to Pimlico Software (would have thought they&#8217;d have jumped on the iPhone bandwagon by now).   This is what I found&#8230;.</p>
<p>a <a href="http://www.pimlicosoftware.com/pimlicalscreenshots.html">MONSTROSITY</a>!</p>
<p>Why would they make a user interface this awful?  They even point out &#8220;Keep in mind that Pimlical is highly configurable, so things like fonts, colors and the screen configurations can be changed by preference settings and appear quite different from these samples.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t polish a turd guys.  This is an awful design.  I&#8217;m not even sure where to start with this one so I&#8217;ll leave it as an exercise for the reader to take a look.</p>
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		<title>Objectified&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2009/11/27/objectified/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I watched a fabulous film on the PBS show Independent Lens called Objectified.   In a nutshell the film explores industrial design and it&#8217;s impact on people&#8217;s lives.  If you have any interest at all in the design of the objects you interact with every day it is a must-see.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched a fabulous film on the PBS show <a href="http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/index.html">Independent Lens</a> called <a href="http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/objectified/index.html">Objectified</a>.   In a nutshell the film explores industrial design and it&#8217;s impact on people&#8217;s lives.  If you have any interest at all in the design of the objects you interact with every day it is a must-see.</p>
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		<title>Flash: what&#8217;s all the fuss over?</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2009/06/23/flash-whats-all-the-fuss-over/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Update:  Here is a fantastic example of someone who has completely gone off the rails with respect to Flash&#8230;
Wow&#8230;nothing generates conversation in the tech industry like Adobe Flash.   In just the past couple of days I&#8217;ve read articles about how HTML5 might be a &#8216;Flash killer&#8217; along with articles on the release of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Update</strong>:  Here is a fantastic <a href="http://www.bynkii.com/archives/2009/06/doing_it_wrong.html">example</a> of someone who has completely gone off the rails with respect to Flash&#8230;</p>
<p>Wow&#8230;nothing generates conversation in the tech industry like Adobe Flash.   In just the past couple of days I&#8217;ve read articles about how HTML5 might be a &#8216;Flash killer&#8217; along with articles on the release of Flash on the major mobile platforms, aside from iPhone.   Along with those articles comes a <strong>lot</strong> commentary ranging from the people complaining about the lack of Flash on the iPhone to those with a strangely visceral hate for Flash who think that the lack of Flash on the iPhone is a bonus of the platform.</p>
<h4>HTML 5 as Flash Killer</h4>
<p>With all due respect to John Gruber over at <a href="http://daringfireball.net/linked/2009/06/22/adobe-html-5">Daring Fireball</a> Adobe doesn&#8217;t view HTML 5 as a threat to Flash not because of anything to do with Internet Explorer but because of the history of HTML and CSS themselves.  HTML 5 has a lot of great features and sounds like a real winner paired with CSS3 but modern browsers still can&#8217;t get the older standards right.   There are still many workarounds required to get things rendering the same way on different browsers.  Granted the situation is better than it used to be but these things simply aren&#8217;t an issue on a Flash-based user interface.   While the browsers continue to play catch-up in the compatibility space Adobe will keep adding compelling features to Flash.  I just don&#8217;t see HTML 5 being a serious challenger to Flash anytime soon.</p>
<h4>Flash on Mobile Devices</h4>
<p>I&#8217;d love Flash to be available on the iPhone.  I  really don&#8217;t get the reaction people have to Flash in general but when people go as far as saying that <a href="http://forums.macworld.com/message/737023#737023">no Flash on the iPhone is a feature</a>&#8230;.please.  Get a grip already.   The iPhone experience would be that much richer with Flash available on the phone.   HTML 5/CSS3 support on mobile Safari could be 100% compliant but until people start adopting those features on a mass scale it won&#8217;t be an alternative to having Flash available on the phone (see above).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just not getting the dust-up over this stuff.  Flash is a tool like anything else.  Wider support of both HTML 5/CSS3 and Flash makes the web better, not worse.   To those who would rather not have Flash exist at all: I think the web is a richer place with You Tube, Pandora, etc. than without them and they exist because of the ubiquitous nature of Flash.  You seriously don&#8217;t?  Because they wouldn&#8217;t exist right now if it weren&#8217;t for Flash.</p>
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		<title>Evernote Mac client sorely lacking</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2008/10/18/evernote-mac-client-sorely-lacking/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been using Evernote for awhile now.  The Windows client is pretty good.  The editor supports ordered/unordered lists, font types, color, etc.   All of the expected things in a rich text editor are there.
At the same time the Mac client is really awful.   The latest update has some new icons, etc. but they haven&#8217;t improved [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been using Evernote for awhile now.  The Windows client is pretty good.  The editor supports ordered/unordered lists, font types, color, etc.   All of the expected things in a rich text editor are there.</p>
<p>At the same time the Mac client is really awful.   The latest update has some new icons, etc. but they haven&#8217;t improved the editor functionality.  There is no ability to create lists as in the Windows client.  Given that the Mac development environment, which comes with the OS, has the source code to the TextEdit application I&#8217;m not sure why the Evernote folks can&#8217;t duplicate that functionality in their client.</p>
<p>To make things worse the Web client now has more editor functionality than the Mac client.   Guys, if you&#8217;re not going to at least have parity between the clients why are you bothering with the Mac client at all?</p>
<p><strong>Update</strong>:  OK.  So apparently the Mac client does support lists&#8230;.just not directly.  I found out that creating a note with a list in the web client results in the list being maintained in the Mac client.  When you add more items to the list numbers/bullets (I assume&#8230;I didn&#8217;t try bullets but numbers do work) increment automatically (and decrement if you remove items).   There just is no way to create these directly in the Mac client as of yet.  Very weird.</p>
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<p><strong>Update 2</strong>:  Ok.  According to <a href="http://forum.evernote.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=38&amp;t=7629#p28794">this</a> forum posting the Evernote folks are going to address this in the next Mac client release.  Great to read this as it might mean not having to run Windows in VMWare Fusion to get the better desktop client.</p>
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		<title>Google Calendar and external iCal feeds &#8211; DOA</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2008/09/29/google-calendar-and-external-ical-feeds-doa/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 03:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve been mucking around with adding my Remember the Milk lists as iCal event feeds to my Google Calendar account.  The idea of having tasks with due dates show up like &#8220;local&#8221; GCal events is great but it doesn&#8217;t work as I&#8217;d hoped.
Apparently I&#8217;m not the only one noticing this either based on this post [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been mucking around with adding my Remember the Milk lists as iCal event feeds to my Google Calendar account.  The idea of having tasks with due dates show up like &#8220;local&#8221; GCal events is great but it doesn&#8217;t work as I&#8217;d hoped.</p>
<p>Apparently I&#8217;m not the only one noticing this either based on <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/google-calendar-help-bugs/browse_thread/thread/d6ebabc8415c392/f7d3326e12c10da2?lnk=gst&amp;q=remember+the+milk+becky#f7d3326e12c10da2">this</a> post on the GCal Google group.  That post notes that it takes hours for the feed to refresh and that there is no way to manually refresh it (you can in with a  30boxes.com calendar but that one leaves a lot to be desired).  Quite frankly it&#8217;s ridiculous that it takes hours.  At that point I can&#8217;t be sure that anything I entered actually shows up in GCal.   It would appear this behavior just isn&#8217;t an RTM issue as I see the same behavior with a feed from iWantSandy.com.</p>
<p>RTM does have two other options available, <a href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/help/answers/about/googlecalendar.rtm">one for GCal</a>, and if you&#8217;re using Firefox, <a href="http://www.rememberthemilk.com/services/gmail/">one for GMail</a>.  The GMail Firefox plugin is quite nice but I don&#8217;t want my tasks there&#8230;I want them in my calendar.  The option for GCal itself is OK but I&#8217;m picky and don&#8217;t want to have to click that checkmark to see what I have for the day.</p>
<p>I suppose that GCal is like so many other pieces of software, it gets you most of the way there but then dumps you off about a mile away from your intended destination.  This is a real disappointment. I know GCal is free but adding a manual refresh link for the external feeds can&#8217;t be that difficult.  The Google Group link above notes that &#8220;they&#8217;re looking into it&#8221;.  I hope it happens sometime soon.</p>
<p>Not surprisingly this works flawlessly on iCal on the Mac.  I can even see tasks with no due date set in the To-Do list part of iCal.   But I can&#8217;t use my Mac at work anymore where I really need to see these lists <img src='http://curiouscreature.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Phone menu navigation</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2008/07/08/phone-menu-navigation/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You hear the whispers coming out of co-workers, hushed tones with odd inflections repeating words like &#8216;yes&#8217;, &#8216;no&#8217;, &#8216;customer service&#8217;.  Is this some weird conversation with a loved one?  Then it dawns on you that your co-worker is busy navigating the world of a voice-recognition-based phone system.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You hear the whispers coming out of co-workers, hushed tones with odd inflections repeating words like &#8216;yes&#8217;, &#8216;no&#8217;, &#8216;customer service&#8217;.  Is this some weird conversation with a loved one?  Then it dawns on you that your co-worker is busy navigating the world of a voice-recognition-based phone system.</p>
<p>Almost everyone has used one of these systems by now. Many companies are using them these days and the trend seems to be moving away from number-based (&#8220;please hit 1 if you require immediate medical attention&#8221;) to voice-recognition-based (&#8220;please say yes if you require immediate medical attention&#8221;) phone menu navigation systems.  The question is why?</p>
<p>There is nothing inherently better about these systems and I&#8217;d argue that in fact they are worse.   In most cases hitting a number on the keypad would be quicker.  In all cases it is certainly not as disruptive as navigating a voice-based menu system.  I suppose there is one situation in which a voice-based system could be better and that would be a menu that gets very deep with options.</p>
<p>With a voice-based system it would probably be easier to skip levels of the menu depending on what the person is saying.   Something like &#8220;pay my bill&#8221; could certainly save time if the keypad-based option required inputting more than 2 numbers to navigate down in to the menu system.  In my experience with these systems though I am not seeing this savings.</p>
<p>Most of the systems have voice input that is closely tied to menus that would be equivalent to the keypad-based systems.  I just don&#8217;t see the savings in time and see a lot more aggravation.  I have had, on more than one occassion, had to repeat myself multiple times to be understood.   Higher levels of background noise really mess with the voice recognition.  In some instances I have even been transferred to a human because the voice recognition can&#8217;t understand what I&#8217;m saying.</p>
<p>Keep the keypad-based systems guys.  They are the less annoying option.</p>
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		<title>Google Calendar&#8230;um&#8230;features?</title>
		<link>http://curiouscreature.net/blog/2008/03/27/google-calendarumfeatures/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 02:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While messing with a Google Apps setup I have created for my volunteer group I found some interesting things about entering events.  Not sure they&#8217;re features given the circumstances but they&#8217;re interesting nonetheless.
First of all, I selected 1pm to 3pm on a Thursday and entered the term &#8220;Kayak Thursday&#8221; (no quotes).  The calendar [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While messing with a Google Apps setup I have created for my volunteer group I found some interesting things about entering events.  Not sure they&#8217;re features given the circumstances but they&#8217;re interesting nonetheless.</p>
<p>First of all, I selected 1pm to 3pm on a Thursday and entered the term &#8220;Kayak Thursday&#8221; (no quotes).  The calendar application then entered an event for me for the Thursday <strong>after</strong> the Thursday I had selected.</p>
<p>Then I tried entering &#8220;Kayak-Thursday&#8221; (again no quotes) and it then scheduled the event for the Thursday <strong>prior</strong> to the Thursday I had selected.</p>
<p>Putting the title in quotes makes it work the way I want.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure this is a feature I really like.  When I select a specific day put the event on that day.  Don&#8217;t try to guess what I want.  The behavior with the &#8220;-Thursday&#8221; was even more odd even though it sort of makes sense.  Well, it makes sense now. It certainly didn&#8217;t make sense then.</p>
<p>I can understand these things for the quick event feature but not given the context I was in while entering events.</p>
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		<title>How *not* to use the Spring MVC Form tag library</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#8217;t used the Spring form tag library before and decided to give it a shot for a small test form I was creating.   I am using a subclass of SimpleFormController to return a simple list of value/name pairs from a database call to populate a select/option list in the HTML.  I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t used the Spring form tag library before and decided to give it a shot for a small test form I was creating.   I am using a subclass of SimpleFormController to return a simple list of value/name pairs from a database call to populate a select/option list in the HTML.  I figured it would be easy enough to return an ArrayList as my command object and that is populated with HashMaps of the key/values.  Oops.  Doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>It appears that I have to create an object that holds the list (or maybe a list of objects with fields that are the items I need displayed in the select dropdown).   It&#8217;s too bad that I can&#8217;t do it the way I want with that tag library <img src='http://curiouscreature.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />    Since this is a throw away screen though (I suppose the controller is as well) I&#8217;m not going to worry too much about it <img src='http://curiouscreature.net/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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